In reply to Charles.

” can’t they shoot to maim?”
No.

The portraits are so lovingly beautiful. The artist successfully conveyed the humanity of each victim. Thank you Mission Local for such careful and direct reportage on this sad problem in our city.

In reply to Blake.

You people all amaze me “it’s ok Natalie is only 4 foot ten and about 75 pounds and Mr. Lo here is shaped like a beach ball but that shouldn’t get in the way of living their dream right? Wrong, San Francisco has been hiring whatever person that applied, many of them had and have absolutely no business wearing a badge. There are some jobs it isn’t about getting a kaleidoscope of great freedom and variety it should be about getting the best qualified people for the job based on accepted standards in the context of that job. We are making many suffer and die because people think we need this color or from this culture. We need people with the skills to be successful. Biden hired Camilla Harris and the new justice based completely on race and gender. It was clear to everyone they were not the best people that could be gotten in fact neither would be in top 100. This is going to seriously cost the country if something were to happen to bidden. We have what the rest of the world views as a joke as vice president. This shit is going to get us all killed stop it. If you want to be the Supreme Court justice or the Vice President then be better than everyone else. The reason this country was once so powerful was because if you worked hard you enjoyed the rewards and now it’s let’s share all the money with the idiots who watch tv all day. Can you think of a better way to destroy this country? Anyway hire the right people for the right job or stfu. It’s been one of the worst departments in the country for years and everyone knows why so don’t get on them for acting like scared little girls sometimes because that’s who you demanded they were to hire. What about all those people who worked their whole lives too towards a goal and had to watch these two get the jobs they were far more qualified for? So we are making up for racism by making sure our country is weaker by using discrimination as the basis for these hidings? So practice racism because of racism. I think your all pretty dumb and I guess it shows.

In reply to Bellesguy.

As a person whom has first hand experience; I’d like for you to know that today’s homeless population are NOT “Virtually all hard-core drug addicts and/or people with severe untreated mental illness.” It’s a lot closer to Grapes of Wrath than you might choose to believe. While I agree that most people involved in police shootings are not elementary school teachers or CPAs, that is likely due to a livable income afforded to them. It is a gossamer veil that separates those that live with enough economic comfort to glance with distain and those whom are assumed to be drug-crazed lunatics populating the sidewalks and underpasses. I personally was the Maitre’d of a three Michelin star restaurant and a sommelier who, nonetheless found myself sleeping on the sidewalks of this city after slipping on a spilled beer at a party and breaking my arm. I can tell you that a person of means, is frighteningly close to being a person on the street. That a person on an antidepressant is very nearly a person smoking a meth pipe. That a person who is feeling depressed is almost a person hearing voices. We are all lucky to be one step removed from those that we consider wretched. And it would do us all a great deal of good to remember that fact.

Beyond a doubt the killings of citizens by the police need to be investigated. One thing I always felt while is that the police seem too eager to shoot to kill…at the very worst, if they must shoot can’t they shoot to maim?

On a different topic, I also want to know about people killed or maimed by the gang bangers in the city? How about neighborhoods that have been overrun by drug dealers and gangs that make it dangerous to walk the streets. These concerns are worth a Mission Local study as well. Also,how effective are community groups at dispelling gang and drug dealing activity?

It appears that the majority of these shootings were entirely justified.

Even though my nephew Derrick Gaines (age 15 at the time of his execution in So San Francisco 2012) is not named in this list, he was killed by a cop who left So San Francisco and has been on the force in San Francisco since about 2014. This cop has had many complaints and suits against him over his policing methods in San Francisco.

In reply to Maria.

Thank you. There are limits to this lunacy. I know your type – you would would apologize to a robber for not having enough cash on you. There’s been over a thousand murders by citizens during the same time. Look what two years of AWOL law enforcement has lead our city to. We’re now 500 officers short because NOBODY WANT OT BE A COP HERE. You people are nuts.

Wonderful work! Thank you.

In reply to Iman.

What does this have to do with the police killing civilians. FOH!!

Why not include all deaths while in police custody.
Off hand
the large man on Cesar Chavez who died during transport after Peter sprayed

A man off Brotherhood way who died when he choked on a baggie of drugs during a detention that he grabbed from the car roof
The Samoan man on Lombard who killed his client in Santa Rosa, then fought several officers on Lombard Street injuring a couple.

There must be more that I don’t recall but they should be included in this list along with anyone who passed while in the Sheriff”s custody

In reply to Mark.

We need to “reform” the criminals. If we had no criminals, we would not need any police.

In reply to Iman.

Obviously all killings including the relative handful by police need to be thoroughly investigated but it is not exactly surprising that homeless people are more likely to be involved in fatal incidents than elementary school teachers or CPAs. This isn’t the Grapes of Wrath. Today’s homeless population are virtually all hard-core drug addicts and/or people with severe untreated mental illness. This does not mean they are not in need of compassion and help but we have to look at them in a clear headed fashion.

Thank you Mission Local Team.

wow 58 police killings in 22 years… meanwhile we’re at what, 40 murders in SF this year so far? Can we get profiles on those victims? Maybe some accountability there?

Serious question:
Could you please give some statistics on how many of them had fathers that were known/ active in their lives/ in prison?

As a 35 year Mission resident i find this pice tone deaf and weird. We’re going through a very rough patch right now where every cretin with a gun is waving it in the air and stabbings are happening daily. I’ve never seen the people who live so afraid and angry. All you people ever do is report these little propagandistic stories of “ooohh he was just misunderstood” about people whose lives were basically consumed by their own criminality. It’s obnoxious.

What has stood out to me is how SF was able to get off the hook so cheaply time and time again. After the Laquan McDonald $5M settlement in Chicago, settlement amounts seem to shift upward nationwide, but not in SF.

Then came George Floyd and now SF is having to pay up. So $7M since 2020, but what was the total for the previous 20 years? Chump change. Mario Woods mom got $400k, unreal.

In reply to Mark.

The settlement was a pittance and Perez-Lopez’s family had a good lawyer who had recently won millions for a LA client. The family could’ve gotten way, way more if they’d gone to trial, or even pushed closer to a trial. They were in El Salvador (I believe) and I get why they took it, but it was unfortunate those lying cops weren’t subpoenaed.

In reply to Mark.

I very much appreciate this report, which gives perspective and enlightens all residents. This research is a huge service to voters, and jurors. Still, I do think it must be stressed that since your sources are law enforcement, who routinely claim a victim was “armed” and a “threat” in order to defend their use of deadly force, we should know what the data is from the victims’ representatives. Amilcar Perez Lopez is just one tragic example – shot six times in the back as he ran away from the police, yet the police faced zero consequences claiming they felt threatened.

Why not make a database of ALL killings in San Francisco? That would be sure to be more enlightening than just police killings. Or do only police killings matter?

Amilcar Perez-Lopez was shot in the back as he was running from officers. Linking to the DA report is misleading as it was a lie which was concocted over two years and finally rested on an “investigation” which was a coverup and an absurd and entirely inappropriate animation. There is a reason the City settled. This was one of the cases that led to the “reform” effort over the past few years that Breed, Scott and the POA have successfully undermined.