In reply to Mark.

Mark,

None of you take the long view.

As one of the people who broke up a thousand fights on playgrounds started by their own students I’m here to tell you …

The people robbing and raping and killing have often been students of mine or some other ‘Behavior’ teacher working in Self-Contained classrooms or jails or prisons or, I’ve even worked at a camp in the Redwoods outsdie of Guerniville where the students slept in dorms on paper but in reality lived in the woods …

The common denominator for these students is that they were raised by parents who did not want them or Foster homes looking after them for profit.

No Love.

Solution is to Pay fertile criminals to get Sterilized.

No one who was not born has ever committed a crime.

Tho Alabama may disagree.

h.

In reply to cardinal.

cardinal,

Your comment stands out as I return to this thread.

Only profanity anywhere in Eleni’s article are direct quotes from Chris Larsen whom I don’t believe is an opponent.

Some of us run long here but within this forum there’s no obscenity amongst regulars.

Not that I’m opposed to Sailor Talk.

lol

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In reply to Robert B. Livingston.

Robert,

An AI ‘robot’ won’t get tired of digging through everything and everyone.

AGI will ID everyone in a busy intersection and tell you where they have been and are likely headed and your likely votes in the last several Presidential elections.

I calm my fears when things get too complex with my new ‘religious’ faith.

Which is that we’re living in a computer simulation.

Go Athens over Sparta !!

In reply to Robert B. Livingston.

The only potty mouths in this comment section are the opponents of Prop E.

In reply to two beers.

I, for one, support our new tech overlords

The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) is opposed to the measure.
Does anyone believe that the SF Mayor’s Office, SFPD, or our techno-capitalist overlords really want to look after our civil liberties?

In reply to Sean.

A minion of the techlords speaks!

Not London, not New York? Why not? Because “We’re always going to be the most privacy, civil rights-oriented place on the fucking planet?” Not if the Billionaire Boyz get their way. Nothing is more important than their money and supersized egos. This undoubtedly comes from the Police Officers Association, our community pillar of civil rights, transparency, privacy and security. And what is wrong with all those cameras already operating that police can access? Aren’t they multiplying force enough? To hear the supporters of E talk, you would think there were only 10 cops in the whole city, and all their time is taken up writing reports on use of force. Really? Do the cops use force so much it takes them forever to report it? E is “safety theater” — precisely what we expect from Breed and the Boyz. They can’t come up with anything reasonable, because let’s face it, reason is not their strong suit.

The thing about remote cameras is that people need to see these are present for them to be a deterrent. Big signs, like, “Smile, you’re on camera.” would help.

In reply to two beers.

Yes. I will.

I think it works. Just the other day I was just about to steal an ATM machine from a local business, until I saw the camera and thought again.

Don’t suspect your friends, use facial recognition technology to turn them in!

This is what direct rule by crypto swindlers looks like.

Big Brother enthusiastically supports Prop E. You will vote for it, won’t you, citizen?

Again, “thing solutions” are promoted over “people” solutions.

Things are relatively cheap and make profits for a few. People can be costly and unpredictable.

With video data, there may be time to dissect a crime, as was done with the murder of a Bob Lee. But it is useless until after a crime is committed, and not before (unless we completely abandon the principle of “innocence before proving guilt” by monitoring cameras in real time and making predictions).

Also, cameras are only as good as the people who watch them, and I don’t expect people relishing the idea of being glued to them or having to roam through miles of video footage.

And don’t people who spend their days monitoring cameras sort of turn themselves into things? What a dreary way to live!

And what of us? Already living in a world of constant surveillance? I’m more tempted to spite it by picking my nose more often!

It would be nice if San Francisco took a lead in showing what radical, human-centered solutions could do for our world— especially in the fields of education and health.

Can a potty-mouthed backer of Prop E care as much about those?