In reply to RL E.

RLE,

In a related matter the SF Police Commission just gave a thumb’s up to their Agenda Item 8 on tonight’s calendar.

That’s the one limiting cop abuse during ‘Pretext Stops’ which has been flooding your airwaves if you’re a politico.

Most interesting thing for me was watching the 2024 version of Commissioner Debra Walker.

Joe has to remember when she was a thorn under Joe O’Donoghue’s saddle for years when she was a BOS appointee to the Building Commission.

Who appointed her first, could she go all the way back to Ammiano ?

Anyway, now she’s swung the other way with her unquestioned loyalty to our present Mayor to the point of leading a walkout in the cop commission to create a loss of quorom just for the hell of it as best I could figure.

Tonight when she couldn’t get the Commission to vote to go into Closed Session yet again I wondered if she was going to fake a heart attack.

The moment passed as did the DGO banning Pretextural Stops.

In reply to Mitch.

Surrounding “counties”, not “countries.”

Campers,

My comments were related to the Police Commission 2-7-24 meeting.

Bout to burst my brain studying Prop E and rewatching the Cop Commission rewinds.

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Campers,

The meat of Carter-Oberstone’s exchanges with Scott and Walsh occur between …

2:10:00 and 2:40:00

That commission really is the ‘Max Carter-Oberstone Show’ and worth watching.

As a break from watching the Israelie Genocide in Gaza.

Or, recovering from Niners Super Bowl loss.

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“Reasonable suspicion” was made famous in the Terry v. Ohio decision and has subsequently been one of the most abused legal precedents in law enforcement history.

Why does Trevor Chandler care if our laws are in line with the laws of Canada and Mexico? Did he really say “other countries” or is that a typo? And if a typo, is it Chandler’s or mission locals?

As someone who knows a mother and child who lost their husband/father to a car being chased by SFPD, I am saddened by people’s reactionary decisions on this issue and the division that is being manufactured. Can we please stop accepting SFPDs excuses for not doing their job?

My friends life was worth more than the stolen Honda that ran him down while he loaded his work truck one morning while his child and wife watched him. A proud man who came to S.F. with a dream, living in a van and a couple years later had a family and owned a house as a result of his hard work and carpentry skills.

And the reality is, crime was higher than today in those times. Stop licking the spoon that feeds you reactionary garbage.

Thank you for asking this! I know now who I will vote for. It is very clear.

Fixing the city means we have to stop letting criminals get away with impunity. I really do thank you for making my choice this clear.